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Bryn Mawr: As Liberal As We Think It Is?

i'm pissed off. i feel like that this college, so liberal in some ways is so STIFLING in others. as an international student, i feel perpetually put on display at this school. i feel like the culture clubs at this school are just for display. people want the food, the fun costumes, and the song and dance routine. but no one wants to go deeper than that, nobody cares about the issues, about what MAKES a culture the way it is. culture is NOT just the superficial crap. sure it's fun and i'm excited about being in SAW's fashion show (which is part of the culture show on 12 november) but i am so SICK of the superficiality and the determination to stay apolitical! at some point, you have to come down on one side of the fence. how can this place be called liberal where people won't TALK about their political ideologies and beliefs, feel uncomfortable with expressing certain views because they may be viewed as intolerant or undiplomatic, feel uncomfortable with participating in CLASSES for the same reason? i want this to change. i want to change this.

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Are you a Super Model for Diversity?

I completely understand you… in so many ways. I can’t feel more passionate about it! I think it’s so wrong, so sad, and just not needed to display our diversity through every Black, Hispanic, Indian, etc, culture group on campus. That just doesn’t cut it for me, but it does for others. I also understand what you mean when you refer to as being “displayed”. I see that a lot, here and almost at every college, now and during the time I was visiting colleges. It’s as if “us” international or minority students are made to represent (display) something that we stand for, but nothing that the school really has. What is interesting to me is how I know I will never be put in certain things in this school that involve this type of “displaying”, only because I don’t fit the image of what they would want to display. And funny enough this has already happened to me, here. I did a panel for the spec weekend and I was put in the regular panel (the panel with limited diversity), instead of the MOSAIC (for the multi-cult specs) panel. I wonder why I was put in one and not the other…could it be my blue eyes, lighter hair, and white complexion? Maybe. Or I’m just not Hispanic enough looking for them. I wonder ... How will they eventually display ME?

Utopia and diversity

I'm in no way defending anyone's actions or decisions. But as you think about what you might want to do to make the situation better, think about the subtlety of what has happened.

Is your college hiding the fact that it really isn't diverse? There are colleges that have been caught doing that recently. For example, a number of places of higher-ed had to "stage" photos so that blacks and whites could be seen together.

Another university actually went so far as to cut out a photo of a black kid and insert it into a photo of a group of whites at a football game. Maybe their intentions were good (they want more minorities to feel welcome at their school). Does the ends justify the means? Rarely.

Where does your college fit in along this spectrum of evils? If you are comparing to utpoia (how appropriate this week, nes pas?) that's one thing. But maybe a realive comparison is in order. And action based on how to make it better.

Also, I don't think diversity is just a liberal value. Diversity is a very good strategy for all kinds of people solving all kinds of problems (e.g., "don't put all your eggs in one basket").

Forcing diversity isn't neccesarily great either

I think this college tries to be extremely diverse and goes out seeking women from all corners of the globe. A noble effort, but sometimes fake. Bryn Mawr is a bit tarnished when it comes to diversity. Sure we don't cut out pics of people with different skin colors and put them together. But what the college does it go out of it's way to recruit people of what we type as "minority" cultures. It's so much easier for a person of "minority" status to get into school. Being "white", I had a harder time getting in. It sucks to be white because everybody assumes that you're rich and ignorant about other cultures and whatnot. I hate the fact that they have all these talks about diversity to try and make everyone be friends with each other. I don't dislike someone because they're from a different culture. I usually don't like someone because they're an asshole- no matter where the hell they come from. We need to accept reality and throw away these disillusions of utopia. I think as educated women, we can learn to accept each others differences without college intervention.

This is why... because of people who think like you!

Child you have lots to learn...I'm so mad at your statements I can't even begin to explain!!!

I'm white, and I disagreed

I'm white, and I disagreed with everything you said.
Two words: white privilege.

Point 2: "Being "white", I had a harder time getting in."
PROVE IT.

"It sucks to be white because everybody assumes that you're rich and ignorant about other cultures and whatnot."

I think you may be confusing Caucasions with what people think of you.

I'm with the other poster who replied to you - I'm at a loss for words.

I can prove it

My best friend and I went to the same high school, took the same AP classes and ID classes. We both had a 3.72 gpa. We both went into clubs and whatnot. We grew up in the same area, etc. The only thing that was different is that she was black and I was white. We applied to some of the same schools. My college counselor was amazed at how similar our profiles were. So, what went wrong?? She was prioritized because of skin color. Her family is wealthier than mine and she got scholarships because of skin color. She could afford college! I can't! I'm in debt for the next 10 years! I guess I'm just resentful because someone got in just on skin color and not because of need! WHY CAN'T EVERYONE JUST STOP CATEGORIZING EVERYONE AND JUST BE ABLE TO LIVE FREELY!! I don't think in terms of race (which is non existent) it's just that society does and IT NEEDS TO END NOW. I'm sick of it.
Really.
You want more proof- talk to me in class!

Do you "hear" what you just

Do you "hear" what you just said? You said, "I guess I'm just resentful because someone got in just on skin color and not because of need!" Just on skin color? You said yourself that her profile was very similar. She got in for her grades, her test scores, not her skin color. Okay, maybe there were more scholarships available for her because of her skin color. That doesn't mean that there aren't scholarships that aren't based on skin color. But you have think about the fact that not that long ago, even with the exact same profile, she would have been rejected just because of her skin color. It raises the question of how fair is affirmative action, which proposes to make up for the discriminatory practices of the past.

There's also interviews and

There's also interviews and essays...I'm guessing she's a better writer than you.

Secondly, you have ancecdotal evidence, not any type of real proof. It sounds like you're jealous of your friend.

That is not a proof

That is not proof my dear. That is a story of how you understand how you are in the situation you find yourself. The truth is probably much more complex. For example, consider the essays that you both wrote. Your essay is probably not filled with obstacles that you overcame throughout your whole life to get to where you are. Her's is. Now, calm down and think about that for just a few minutes.

I'd REALLY like to hear what you have to say...

Talk to you in class?-----You bet I will. -Dre
~Knowledge Speaks but, Wisdom Listens~

that wasn't really my point

that wasn't really my point in my rant. i didn't really have a point, but oh well. i wasnt really looking at getting in, i was looking at BEING here. look at our curricula. education here is amerocentric and eurocentric and therefore you get far more out of your education here than say someone like me who is looking for something beyond the western world. for example, i want to learn about the varying structures of poverty between asia and the united states, not just about poverty in the USA and in the UK, because i am asian and i WANT to learn these things. it's so much more difficult for me to relate to issues brought up in class because neither i nor anyone i know has to deal with them. i am not getting what i desire out of my education here, and i thought i'd be getting so much more than i am.

you just go from one

you just go from one complaint to another? what happened to the pissed-off, make-you-wanna-scream minority on display? now you aren't getting what you want because you want something so specific, which doesn't sound like a liberal arts degree anywhere, let alone in the US. why don't you make the most of what you have right here, right now? or at least focus on one drama for a moment?

Expansion

What are ways in which our education could be expanded that way?

i talked to a professor

i talked to a professor about my issues and he made some of the views i expressed known at a meeting that particular department had on diversity issues in the curricula. so that's a start. i don't know how this problem can be fixed, but i do know it will take time.

and whoever commented anonymously (the box right above abstract water's comment which i'm replying to), i have a right to be pissed off. so what if i have multiple problems? it's my blog post. i can say whatever the hell i feel like saying. there's no need to attack me for it.


Making Sense of Diversity: A

Making Sense of Diversity: A Conversation at Bryn Mawr College.

BMC Diversity Conversations Forum on Serendip.

Also, Bryn Mawr's professor Michael Rock would be a good person to contact regarding your wish to focus on Asian Economics. He teaches Economics 335: Econ & East Asian Studies.

And, this site from the library has

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